Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Weird Diagnostic Electronics

[LarryT (l02turner]

I just realized none of my vehicles even *have* a CEL!  Ha!  Take that - 
black boxes! ;-)

91 Mercedes
95 Nissan
74 Porsche
89 Ford Van
66 MGB

Take *that* NHTSA!!

LarryT

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From: "Mike Fleischer" <themightytoe [at] gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:38 PM
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Weird Diagnostic Electronics

> LOL,
>
> I had CEL's on my Boxster all the time from the frikking gas cap...  And
> my GTI, and probably once on my M3, German cars...  Oh and my favorite
> is my Vette, god damn if Chevrolet can't figure out how to make a simple
> thing like a gas cap?  That thing is a damned rubiks cube to get on
> correctly.  On the plus side the Vette clears its own CEL for some
> faults (like the gas cap, which it actually tells you on the
> computer...  Check gas cap!)  I really miss my Ferrari's giant screw on
> aluminum piece...  Of course its CEL's were always from piss poor
> wiring, replace the wires and connectors first!  Everything else worked
> pretty well.
>
> Still miss my Boxster, but the Vette definitely can scare me better.
>
> Mike
>
> Charles Perry wrote:
> > That Boxster problem is goofy. I found out about that when I swapped the
> > stereo in my wife's Boxster. Made the mistake of powering up the system
> > to test it before I had put her seat back in (amp & XM were under it).
> > Set the CEL. Nearly impossible to make a non-technical wife feel safe
> > about her driving her car when you tell her the CEL was triggered by the
> > seat belt being disconnected.
> >
> > Quoth her, "I'm not stupid. What the hell does the seat belt have to do
> > with the motor. What did you do to my car?"
> >
> > Strangely, my own OBD-II tester would not reset the light, but lister
> > Karl Troy was kind enough to do it for me. The Boxster (at least our
> > 2001) is also sensationally sensitive to loose gas caps. Sets a CEL
> > every time. At least I can reset that one.
> >
> > -- charles
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Doug and Terri Anderson [mailto:dnt [at] dock.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 11:37 AM
> > To: Charles Perry
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Need group wisdom on pricing for 2007 F430
> >
> >
> > > > Clyde sez "The modern electrics will not be the issue.  How many times
> >
> >
> > > > has a black box failed on you lately ?
> >
> > Clyde -
> >
> > The black box won't fail.  The problem is a technicians skill.  They
> > simply won't be able to diagnose a driveability problem - and then blame
> > the black box$. Since about 2002 there is a very complicated computer
> > system called CAN or CAN Protocols - even for the cheapest Chevy.
> >
> > CAN Protocols include Controller Area Network (CAN), Local Interconnect
> > Network (LIN) and others.
> >
> > Porsche (bless their little VW souls, now) had a huge check engine light
> > problem wiith the Boxster - turns out - - - seat belt latch ground.
> > BUWAHAhahahahahahahahah  $$$ Opppps, sorry, it was just a loose bolt.
> >
> > DOUG
> > Keeping his carbed 308 GTS until Owl Gored crushes it.
> >
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