Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Season Ender

[Hans E. Hansen (FList]

And yet another write up:

https://www.racefans.net/2021/12/14/analysis-the-four-minutes-that-changed-the-destiny-of-the-2021-world-championship/

On 12/14/21, scott saidel <Scott_Saidel [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
> I’ve been hesitant to opine.
>
> So many trips to the stewards this year.  Agreed sometimes, disagreed
> others.
>
> I suppose it is like any other sport, sometimes the close ones go your way,
> sometimes not - evens out in the end, maybe?
>
> Letting Hammy run away at the beginning when he blew the corner was BS, but
> it was racing.
>
> I get what Massi was trying to do with the call he made - at least end the
> season racing.
>
> I also see how that screwed Hamilton.
>
> In the end his choice he has disobeyed or disregarded Toto’s orders before.
>
> Then again, Toto usually gets strategy pretty right.
>
> It was a calculated risk -
>
> if they never went green, they won.
>
> If they went green, but with all the traffic - 5 cars - in between, they
> won.
>
> I doubt Toto thought that they’d get down to 1.5 laps left and Massi would
> figure out a way to turn it into a one lap sprint.
>
> FWIW, I liked Hamilton the kid.  20-something Hamilton was a dick.  I have
> been starting to like him again.
>
> I thought he behaved like a champion at the trophies.
>
> FAR MORE IMPORTANT - a solid third in the race, and third overall in the
> Teams.   Not a great season, but not bad.
>
> Next year should be interesting.
>
> scottie
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> On Dec 14, 2021, at 7:12 PM, misc
> <misc [at] 308systems.com<mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>> wrote:
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> That's a great analysis!
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
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> From: LSJ <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com<mailto:lashdeep [at] yahoo.com>>
> Date: 12/14/21 3:53 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: misc <misc [at] 308systems.com<mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>>
> Cc: The FerrariList
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com<mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Season Ender
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> I've never seen so much post race analysis on Youtube (or FList) ever...
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> Driver61 always does a great job-
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> LSJ
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> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021, 06:38:24 PM EST, misc
> <misc [at] 308systems.com<mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>> wrote:
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> If Mercedes pulled Hamilton in for tires he would have lost P1 and then if
> they didn't restart the race he would have lost the race, so there's no way
> they were going to risk that, they didn't anticipate getting blindsided by
> Massi.
>
> From my limited knowledge it seems as though he made up his own rule at the
> end of the race, hard to imagine how that can stand.
>
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> From: Anthony Bauco <tbauco [at] gmail.com<mailto:tbauco [at] gmail.com>>
> Date: 12/14/21 3:03 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Mark <misc [at] 308systems.com<mailto:misc [at] 308systems.com>>
> Cc: The FerrariList
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com<mailto:ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Season Ender
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> Absolutely!  He should have come in for tires.  And, leave it to Hamilton to
> throw his team under the bus.  He may have been gracious to Max but he still
> had to blame someone.  Such a victim.
>
> And I still want to know how Mercedes suddenly got so much faster about 4
> races ago.  I know they swapped some engine parts but I don't recall them
> announcing an upgrade.
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021, 1:46 PM
> <georgedodson [at] comcast.net<mailto:georgedodson [at] comcast.net>> wrote:
> Then there is the obvious question: Why didn't Mercedes pull Hamilton in on
> the Safety Car interval and put on new, probably Soft, tires? When I was
> watching the race, my wife came in and said, "Its Over". My reply was, if
> there is an accident, anything can happen. You have to play your best game
> all the way to the end. It looked like Mercedes thought that they were
> "home
> safe and dry" and stopped pushing. Even Hamilton questioned the tire
> tactics
> (strategy is an often misused word).
>
> George
>
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