Ferrari Mailing List: Re: ferrari infringement ebay

[Rick Lindsay (rolindsay]

As has been stated before, "No good deed goes
unpunished."

rick

--- Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

> In the 1990's when Terri and I got our 1978 308GTS,
> I made it a point to 
> find the parts manual and the workshop manual.
> 
> I eventually collected every parts manual there was
> from 75 onward - up to 
> the last paper manual - a 5# yellow 4 ring binder
> for the 2001 360challenge. 
> I still have extras but they are collectors items
> still in factory plastic. 
> Some 355s and so forth.
> 
> Alas, the 308gt4 WS manual was cute but no help to
> me, an occasional week 
> end do it yourselfer.  BUT the parts manual was
> great.  Very nice drawings 
> of all the parts and where they went.  Grays Anatomy
> of our car.
> 
> Then I ran into others 308 owners with my original
> problem - have the car - 
> don't have a parts book.  So I set off copying just
> the picture plates - the 
> description of parts was worthless - all in Italian
> and a "screw" was the 
> same for the thing that held the clock in or bolted
> the head onto the block.
> 
> Yes, I was scared to death of the phone call in
> night from Italian speaking 
> attorneys from New Jersey but was never bothered by
> one tho many people 
> stated get ready.  Then along came the CD and the
> paper business was not 
> needed.
> 
> I don't make them anymore  I still have a box of
> some copies that I sell for 
> postage only - just to help out the poor soul who
> has the car and needs to 
> figure out what goes where or order parts.  The CD
> is great but hard to fold 
> up and take with you.  heh heh
> 
> Onward,
> DOUG
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Misc" <misc [at] 308systems.com>
> To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>
> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ferrari infringement ebay
> 
> 
> > Hi Michel,
> > Unfortunately, Ferrari ownes the copywrite to
> these manuals and the 
> > earliest
> > that copywrite will expire is 70yrs from the date
> of creation.  Thus,
> > Ferrari has no incentive to support unauthorized
> distribution of the
> > manuals.  I doubt a financial arrangement(giving
> them a cut of sales) 
> > would
> > be meaningful to them.
> >
> > Perhaps you could play to their business side,
> suggesting that if you make
> > the manuals available, owners will be more apt to
> work on their vehicles 
> > and
> > therefore purchase Ferrari NOS parts - or realize
> they are in over their
> > heads and take their Ferrari to a dealer for
> service(and subsequent parts
> > purchase).
> >
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Mark Lueker
> > 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
> > 970-282-7006
> > www.308systems.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michel Savard [mailto:mysavard [at] dsuper.net]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:00 PM
> > To: Mark
> > Cc: The FerrariList
> > Subject: [Ferrari] ferrari infringement ebay
> >
> >
> > I?ve been selling  copies of my parts manual (1981
> 308 GTSi) for many
> > years on Ebay. A few months ago, Ebay cancelled my
> auction. I took the
> > word ?copy? out of the title and the description.
> I sold them again and
> > it worked for a few months before Ebay cancelled
> my auction again saying
> > that Ferrari doesn?t allow this.
> >
> > Ebay gave me a Ferrari email address in case I
> wanted to bring my case
> > to Ferrari. Now before I do that, I need some help
> as to what I should
> > write to Ferrari about that. After all, they don?t
> make new parts manual
> > for old cars anymore, they don?t sell copies
> neither. So, why do they
> > bother ?
> >
> > Please help me make a strong case to Ferrari.
> >
> > Michael Savard (Canada)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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