Ferrari Mailing List: Re: ferrari infringement ebay

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Good one Rick - I skated unless you count the occasional person who wanted 
the entire manual, in bound condition, for $15.  First of all, the Ferrari 
parts manuals are printed on a very heavy slick A4 paper.  They don't lend 
themselves to self feeding.  Also, each page had to be layed up manually to 
insure getting all data even at a reduced image.  The big Box copy stores 
wouldn't touch copying the manual for all the reasons previously listed and 
then some more.  Oh - well, we helped out a lot of people and that was what 
I was shooting for.  Time marches on.

DOUG
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Lindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>

To: "Doug and Terri Anderson" <dnt [at] dock.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ferrari infringement ebay
As has been stated before, "No good deed goes
unpunished."
rick
--- Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:
In the 1990's when Terri and I got our 1978 308GTS,
I made it a point to
find the parts manual and the workshop manual.
I eventually collected every parts manual there was
from 75 onward - up to
the last paper manual - a 5# yellow 4 ring binder
for the 2001 360challenge.
I still have extras but they are collectors items
still in factory plastic.
Some 355s and so forth.
Alas, the 308gt4 WS manual was cute but no help to
me, an occasional week
end do it yourselfer.  BUT the parts manual was
great.  Very nice drawings
of all the parts and where they went.  Grays Anatomy
of our car.
Then I ran into others 308 owners with my original
problem - have the car -
don't have a parts book.  So I set off copying just
the picture plates - the
description of parts was worthless - all in Italian
and a "screw" was the
same for the thing that held the clock in or bolted
the head onto the block.
Yes, I was scared to death of the phone call in
night from Italian speaking
attorneys from New Jersey but was never bothered by
one tho many people
stated get ready.  Then along came the CD and the
paper business was not
needed.
I don't make them anymore  I still have a box of
some copies that I sell for
postage only - just to help out the poor soul who
has the car and needs to
figure out what goes where or order parts.  The CD
is great but hard to fold
up and take with you.  heh heh
Onward,
DOUG
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Misc" <misc [at] 308systems.com>

To: "DOUG" <dnt [at] dock.net>

Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>

Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:13 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] ferrari infringement ebay

> Hi Michel,
> Unfortunately, Ferrari ownes the copywrite to
these manuals and the
> earliest
> that copywrite will expire is 70yrs from the date
of creation.  Thus,
> Ferrari has no incentive to support unauthorized
distribution of the
> manuals.  I doubt a financial arrangement(giving
them a cut of sales)
> would
> be meaningful to them.
>
> Perhaps you could play to their business side,
suggesting that if you make
> the manuals available, owners will be more apt to
work on their vehicles
> and
> therefore purchase Ferrari NOS parts - or realize
they are in over their
> heads and take their Ferrari to a dealer for
service(and subsequent parts
> purchase).
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mark Lueker
> 308 SYSTEMS Inc.
> 970-282-7006
> www.308systems.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michel Savard [mailto:mysavard [at] dsuper.net]
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: Mark
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: [Ferrari] ferrari infringement ebay
>
>
> I've been selling  copies of my parts manual (1981
308 GTSi) for many
> years on Ebay. A few months ago, Ebay cancelled my
auction. I took the
> word "copy" out of the title and the description.
I sold them again and
> it worked for a few months before Ebay cancelled
my auction again saying
> that Ferrari doesn't allow this.
>
> Ebay gave me a Ferrari email address in case I
wanted to bring my case
> to Ferrari. Now before I do that, I need some help
as to what I should
> write to Ferrari about that. After all, they don't
make new parts manual
> for old cars anymore, they don't sell copies
neither. So, why do they
> bother ?
>
> Please help me make a strong case to Ferrari.
>
> Michael Savard (Canada)
>
>
>
>
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Re: ferrari infringement ebay	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Doug and Terri Anderson (dntdock.net)
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 07:19:30 -0700 (PDT)