Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Cam timing

[Peter Pless (ferrarilst]

Yep...just got that. I think it's a good idea actually. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans E. Hansen [mailto:FList [at] hanshansen.org] 
Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2008 8:14 AM
To: Peter Pless
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Cam timing

As I mentioned, on the older V8s there are *no* external marks.  So I'm
having them added........

Hans.

On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Peter Pless <ferrarilst [at] pless.com.au> 
wrote:
> Well, my 308 marks are spot on, and so  are my 355 marks. I'm 
> wondering if the people who have found them to be 'out' didn't check 
> the cam timing properly rather than the marks being at fault......and 
> if some of the mechanics who claim it's essential have found a nice 
> little money spinner for them.
>
> 3 quite experienced ferrari mechanics I've asked here in Aus have told 
> me they've never seen a car with timing marks that were wrong. Surely 
> by the time the 355s were made machining was accurate enough that the 
> marks should be spot on, and I've been told that with older cars the 
> marks were made manually by the engine builder when he dialled the cams
in.
>
> That why I asked if anyone ON HERE (I read fchat) has found marks to 
> actually be wrong. To me it makes sense that they should always be 
> spot on, but then, I stopped being surprised about Ferraris long ago.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimshadow [at] verizon.net [mailto:jimshadow [at] verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, 4 December 2008 7:59 AM
> To: Peter Pless
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Cam timing
>
> That's interesting.....my car has very noticeable marks that are dead 
> on.....
> I figured that the first motors (mine is 0058) were carefully put 
> together with the marks and all........
>
> Jim
> ------Original Message------
> From: Hans E. Hansen
> Sender:
> To: Jim
> Cc: The FerrariList
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Cam timing
> Sent: Dec 3, 2008 12:46 PM
>
> My car is currently in for a belt change.  The mechanic ask me if I 
> wanted him to degree the cams and make a reference mark for future 
> use.  He said that there wasn't anything of "real use" on the cams in the
early years.
> He's charging me an extra 3 hours for this.
>
> Hans.
>
> On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 7:20 AM,  <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> wrote:
>> There are a bazillion threads on this subject on FChat.    Basically you
> need to degree your cams to check for accuracy if you feel they are off.
> There are some great threads written about this process.
>> The general concensus is that the marks are 'reference only' marks 
>> and
> should not be trusted until verified.
>>
>> FWIW, YMMV
>>
>> Jim
>> ------Original Message------
>> From: Peter Pless
>> To: Jim
>> Cc: The FerrariList
>> Subject: [Ferrari] Cam timing
>> Sent: Dec 3, 2008 8:27 AM
>>
>> Has anyone ever experienced the cam timing marks on a ferrari engine 
>> being inaccurate? If so, was it because they weren't the original 
>> heads or cams, or was it just a factory stuff up?
>>
>>
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