Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Engine Rebuild III

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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:07:20 
To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net>
Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III

Massive build-up of mineral deposits and corrosion in my engine led to its 
overheating issues - the corrosion and deposits impeded the coolant flow to the 
heads and block.  It is possible that a PO filled the coolant system with pure 
water and then parked the car for years.....allowing the water to do its damage.
 
M

--- On Mon, 11/30/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> wrote:


From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:40 AM


Danger, danger Will Robinson!  Using pure water for coolant will lead to 
cooling system corrosion.  The organic acids additive package in 
antifreeze provide a degree of corrosion protection and water pump seal 
lubrication.  If a car with a healthy engine and cooling system 
overheats during normal operation then the radiator capacity and/or its 
air flow needs to be increased. There a good ways to accomplish that 
using custom bits, and they're cheap by Ferrari price standards.

Ken Rentiers wrote:

>Michael something that helps there is to fill the cooling system with  
>just water  - a much more efficient heat transfer medium than the  
>typical 50-50 winter mix. Try it you'll be amazed.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Michael James  
><cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>My Driving was limited to mostly highway miles, no track time, and  
>>very-limited hard driving, certainly nowhere near redline or the  
>>limits of the car.  But I have had several excursions of very HOT  
>>driving, where speeds were low and engine temps were soaring.....
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>>To: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:11 PM
>>
>>
>>Michael,
>>     What kind of oil were you using?  How long between changes?   
>>What kind
>>of driving did you usually do?  What oil is he recommending for when  
>>the car
>>is back on the road again?
>>Tom
>>Tulsa
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>>To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
>>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:54 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>>
>>
>>My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled with  
>>the heat
>>did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the cylinder  
>>liners, and
>>vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from high-heat, and the  
>>bearings in the
>>motor are all SHOT. The Cams and Crankshaft were spared, but the  
>>bearing
>>sets have risen in price over the years....and so have cylinder  
>>liners. I
>>also burned-through a piston. I also have all of the engine gaskets to
>>replace (a whole-set of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include the  
>>head
>>gaskets). All 16 exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake
>>valves.....the previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the  
>>valves and
>>corrupt their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown numbers  
>>were
>>horrible across the board. I suppose I should be lucky that the  
>>Block and
>>Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted  
>>over the
>>years....crap!
>>
>>Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks  
>>like.
>>
>>M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>>To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:40 PM
>>
>>
>>As Bill famously said, "I feel your pain." In my case a TR first gear
>>repair, a crown gear carrier upgrade, and a ridiculously expensive
>>throwout bearing replacement. Kind of like the restaurant price guide
>>- $$$$$.
>>
>>Michael James wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Well, the good news is that the Block and Heads are NOT warped at  
>>>all. In
>>>      
>>>
>>fact, we can re-use them with only minor machine work.
>>    
>>
>>>And that's about the only good news I have......there was evidence  
>>>of a
>>>      
>>>
>>previous valve-job done BADLY, and most all of the valves need  
>>replacement,
>>along with the valve guides. I also need one new piston, all new  
>>piston
>>rings, and here's the kicker - all new nikasil cylinder liners. Ted  
>>Rutlands
>>was called, and he has NO QV engines 'on the shelf', so I'm stuck  
>>rebuilding
>>my own engine. The parts bill will be steep....
>>    
>>
>>>M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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