| Re: Engine Rebuild III | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: E M (pokiebaron gmail.com)
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| Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:36:34 -0800 (PST) | |
I'm still amazed at how many pay for the best coolant, and then run to the garden hose to mix it to the correct ratio. lol Ed 911SC 2009/11/30 Martin Stark <MStark [at] copper.net> > At $1.00/gal at my local supermarket distilled water is cheap liquid for > cooling systems and batteries. > > > E M wrote: > > stay way from tap water in the cooling system. > > Ed > 911SC > > 2009/11/30 <clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net> <clyderomero [at] > worldnet.att.net> > > Hard water does that > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> <MStark [at] Copper.net> > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 12:13:23 > To: clyde<clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net> <clyderomero [at] > worldnet.att.net> > Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> <ferrari [at] > ferrarilist.com> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III > > Make sure you check the coolant passages in the block and heads for > porosity. That massive mineral deposit came from somewhere. > > Michael James wrote: > > > > Massive build-up of mineral deposits and corrosion in my engine led to > its overheating issues - the corrosion and deposits impeded the > coolant flow to the heads and block. It is possible that a PO filled > the coolant system with pure water and then parked the car for > years.....allowing the water to do its damage. > > M > > --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> <MStark [at] > Copper.net> wrote: > > > From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> <MStark [at] Copper.net> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III > To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com> <Cavallino_Rapante [at] > yahoo.com> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com> <ferrari [at] > ferrarilist.com> > Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:40 AM > > Danger, danger Will Robinson! Using pure water for coolant will > lead to > cooling system corrosion. The organic acids additive package in > antifreeze provide a degree of corrosion protection and water pump > seal > lubrication. If a car with a healthy engine and cooling system > overheats during normal operation then the radiator capacity > and/or its > air flow needs to be increased. There a good ways to accomplish that > using custom bits, and they're cheap by Ferrari price standards. > > Ken Rentiers wrote: > > >Michael something that helps there is to fill the cooling system > with > >just water - a much more efficient heat transfer medium than the > >typical 50-50 winter mix. Try it you'll be amazed. > > > >Sent from my iPhone > > > >On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Michael James > ><cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cavallino_rapante [at] > yahoo.com>> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >>My Driving was limited to mostly highway miles, no track time, and > >>very-limited hard driving, certainly nowhere near redline or the > >>limits of the car. But I have had several excursions of very HOT > >>driving, where speeds were low and engine temps were soaring..... > >> > >> > >> > >>--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net> > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net>> wrote: > >> > >> > >>From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net> > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net>> > >>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III > >>To: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cavallino_rapante [at] > yahoo.com>> > > > >>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>> > > > >>Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:11 PM > >> > >> > >>Michael, > >> What kind of oil were you using? How long between changes? > >>What kind > >>of driving did you usually do? What oil is he recommending for > when > >>the car > >>is back on the road again? > >>Tom > >>Tulsa > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cavallino_rapante [at] > yahoo.com>> > > > >>To: <kjtar [at] cox.net > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net> > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=kjtar [at] cox.net>> > >>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:54 PM > >>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III > >> > >> > >>My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled > with > >>the heat > >>did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the cylinder > >>liners, and > >>vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from high-heat, and the > >>bearings in the > >>motor are all SHOT. The Cams and Crankshaft were spared, but the > >>bearing > >>sets have risen in price over the years....and so have cylinder > >>liners. I > >>also burned-through a piston. I also have all of the engine > gaskets to > >>replace (a whole-set of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include > the > >>head > >>gaskets). All 16 exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake > >>valves.....the previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the > >>valves and > >>corrupt their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown > numbers > >>were > >>horrible across the board. I suppose I should be lucky that the > >>Block and > >>Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted > >>over the > >>years....crap! > >> > >>Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks > >>like. > >> > >>M > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MStark [at] Copper.net> > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MStark [at] Copper.net>> > wrote: > >> > >> > >>From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MStark [at] Copper.net> > <http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MStark [at] Copper.net>> > >>Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III > >>To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Cavallino_Rapante [at] > yahoo.com>> > > > >>Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com > < > > > http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>> > > > >>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:40 PM > >> > >> > >>As Bill famously said, "I feel your pain." In my case a TR first > gear > >>repair, a crown gear carrier upgrade, and a ridiculously expensive > >>throwout bearing replacement. Kind of like the restaurant price > guide > >>- $$$$$. > >> > >>Michael James wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>Well, the good news is that the Block and Heads are NOT warped at > >>>all. In > >>> > >>> > >>fact, we can re-use them with only minor machine work. > >> > >> > >>>And that's about the only good news I have......there was > evidence > >>>of a > >>> > >>> > >>previous valve-job done BADLY, and most all of the valves need > >>replacement, > >>along with the valve guides. I also need one new piston, all new > >>piston > >>rings, and here's the kicker - all new nikasil cylinder liners. > Ted > >>Rutlands > >>was called, and he has NO QV engines 'on the shelf', so I'm stuck > >>rebuilding > >>my own engine. The parts bill will be steep.... > >> > >> > >>>M > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >>> > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/mstark%40copper.net > > >>> > >>>Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > >>>and F1 Headlines > >>>http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >> > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/cavallino_rapante%40yahoo.com > > >> > >>Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > >>and F1 Headlines > >>http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >> > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/kjtar%40cox.net > > >> > >>Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > >>and F1 Headlines > >>http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: > >>3/8/07 10:58 > >>AM > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > >> > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/rentiers%40mail.com > > >> > >>Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > >>and F1 Headlines > >>http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > >> > >> > >> > >_________________________________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/mstark%40copper.net > > > > >Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > >and F1 Headlines > >http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > > > > > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/cavallino_rapante%40yahoo.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlines > http://www.F1Headlines.com/ <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > <http://www.f1headlines.com/> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/clyderomero%40worldnet.att.net > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/pokiebaron%40gmail.com > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please > visit:http://lists.ferrarilist.com/mailman/options/ferrari/mstark%40copper.net > > Sponsored by BooyahMedia.com > and F1 Headlineshttp://www.F1Headlines.com/ > >
- Re: Engine Rebuild III, (continued)
- Re: Engine Rebuild III Martin Stark, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III clyderomero, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III E M, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III Martin Stark, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III E M, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III clyderomero, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III clyderomero, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III Michael James, November 30 2009
- Re: Engine Rebuild III Martin Stark, November 26 2009
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