Ferrari Mailing List: Re: oils and coolant for the last time

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Wait

How is it hotter starting than normal operations? 

I am no jet mechanic but that makes no sense!

clyde romero wrote:

Guys MOBIL 1 is the oil period
It's the same stuff that is used in JET ENGINES!
When I start an jet engine at work it starting temp is 700 C
Normal operating temp is 500 C
Are you getting it now !

When it comes to coolant I lived in New Orleans for 20 plus years with a 308
QV
Never had a cooling issue because I drained and flushed the systems yearly.
When you do that you check the hoses and stay ahead of major problems
Used prestone and never had one problem
I could stay in 95 degree OAT traffic and temp would stay in the zone
When you flush your system well it gets all or most of the major problems
that hang around in the system waiting to bite you in the ass later
Its cheap and very effective
As some of you know I race bikes

Nothing puts out more power per litter than  a bike 

And that equals heat

We use water wetter in the bikes since we don't run when its freezing out
side
Using plain coolant what ever brand is JUST PLAIN STUPID
Read the owners manual !
Gotta go
Pics to follow on my 512 transaxle deal

Clyde

Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.

Manpad SME
Clyderomero [at] worldnet.att.net
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-----Original Message-----

From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com] 

Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:22 AM

To: clyde
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III

David recommends a heavier-weight synthetic.....I used 0-W-40 Mobil 1
European Car formula with two bottles of either 10-W-40 or 20-W-50 thrown in
to add some additional 'weight' to the mix.....the overheating I've
experienced broke-down the oil, and increased bearing wear....so, I have
a lot of internal damage for only 36K on the odometer.

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, JIM WILCOX <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> wrote:

From: JIM WILCOX <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:57 PM

I'd be curious to hear what oil David recommends in the 308.  

He is a good guy and has helped me out quite a bit with my GT4.   

JIM

--- On Thu, 11/26/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:

From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
To: "JIM" <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:11 PM

Michael,
     What kind of oil were you using?  How long between changes?  What kind
of driving did you usually do?  What oil is he recommending for when the car
is back on the road again?
Tom
Tulsa

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>

To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III

My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled with the heat
did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the cylinder liners, and
vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from high-heat, and the bearings in the
motor are all SHOT. The Cams and Crankshaft were spared, but the bearing
sets have risen in price over the years....and so have cylinder liners. I
also burned-through a piston. I also have all of the engine gaskets to
replace (a whole-set of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include the head
gaskets). All 16 exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake
valves.....the previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the valves and
corrupt their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown numbers were
horrible across the board. I suppose I should be lucky that the Block and
Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted over the
years....crap!

Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks like.

M

--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> wrote:

From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:40 PM

As Bill famously said, "I feel your pain." In my case a TR first gear
repair, a crown gear carrier upgrade, and a ridiculously expensive
throwout bearing replacement. Kind of like the restaurant price guide
- $$$$$.

Michael James wrote:

Well, the good news is that the Block and Heads are NOT warped at all. In

fact, we can re-use them with only minor machine work.

And that's about the only good news I have......there was evidence of a

previous valve-job done BADLY, and most all of the valves need replacement,
along with the valve guides. I also need one new piston, all new piston
rings, and here's the kicker - all new nikasil cylinder liners. Ted Rutlands
was called, and he has NO QV engines 'on the shelf', so I'm stuck rebuilding
my own engine. The parts bill will be steep....

M

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Re: oils and coolant for the last time	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: TheMightyToe (themightytoegmail.com)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:20:00 -0800 (PST)