Ferrari Mailing List: Re: oils and coolant for the last time

[Ken Rentiers (rentiers]

I know I know! 

Could it be moving through the air at -20^F at 450 MPH????

On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM, TheMightyToe wrote:

> Wait
> 
> How is it hotter starting than normal operations? 
> 
> I am no jet mechanic but that makes no sense!
> 
> clyde romero wrote:
>> Guys MOBIL 1 is the oil period
>> It's the same stuff that is used in JET ENGINES!
>> When I start an jet engine at work it starting temp is 700 C
>> Normal operating temp is 500 C
>> Are you getting it now !
>> 
>> When it comes to coolant I lived in New Orleans for 20 plus years with a 308
>> QV
>> Never had a cooling issue because I drained and flushed the systems yearly.
>> When you do that you check the hoses and stay ahead of major problems
>> Used prestone and never had one problem
>> I could stay in 95 degree OAT traffic and temp would stay in the zone
>> When you flush your system well it gets all or most of the major problems
>> that hang around in the system waiting to bite you in the ass later
>> Its cheap and very effective
>> As some of you know I race bikes
>> Nothing puts out more power per litter than  a bike 
>> And that equals heat
>> We use water wetter in the bikes since we don't run when its freezing out
>> side
>> Using plain coolant what ever brand is JUST PLAIN STUPID
>> Read the owners manual !
>> Gotta go
>> Pics to follow on my 512 transaxle deal
>> 
>> 
>> Clyde
>> 
>> Capt. Clyde Romero Jr.
>> Manpad SME
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael James [mailto:cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com] 
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 10:22 AM
>> To: clyde
>> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>> 
>> David recommends a heavier-weight synthetic.....I used 0-W-40 Mobil 1
>> European Car formula with two bottles of either 10-W-40 or 20-W-50 thrown in
>> to add some additional 'weight' to the mix.....the overheating I've
>> experienced broke-down the oil, and increased bearing wear....so, I have
>> a lot of internal damage for only 36K on the odometer.
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, JIM WILCOX <jimshadow [at] verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: JIM WILCOX <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>> Cc: ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com
>> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:57 PM
>> 
>> 
>> I'd be curious to hear what oil David recommends in the 308.  
>> He is a good guy and has helped me out quite a bit with my GT4.   
>> 
>> JIM
>> 
>> --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>> To: "JIM" <jimshadow [at] verizon.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:11 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Michael,
>>     What kind of oil were you using?  How long between changes?  What kind
>> of driving did you usually do?  What oil is he recommending for when the car
>> is back on the road again?
>> Tom
>> Tulsa
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>> To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>> 
>> 
>> My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled with the heat
>> did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the cylinder liners, and
>> vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from high-heat, and the bearings in the
>> motor are all SHOT. The Cams and Crankshaft were spared, but the bearing
>> sets have risen in price over the years....and so have cylinder liners. I
>> also burned-through a piston. I also have all of the engine gaskets to
>> replace (a whole-set of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include the head
>> gaskets). All 16 exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake
>> valves.....the previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the valves and
>> corrupt their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown numbers were
>> horrible across the board. I suppose I should be lucky that the Block and
>> Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted over the
>> years....crap!
>> 
>> Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks like.
>> 
>> M
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
>> To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:40 PM
>> 
>> 
>> As Bill famously said, "I feel your pain." In my case a TR first gear
>> repair, a crown gear carrier upgrade, and a ridiculously expensive
>> throwout bearing replacement. Kind of like the restaurant price guide
>> - $$$$$.
>> 
>> Michael James wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Well, the good news is that the Block and Heads are NOT warped at all. In
>>> 
>> fact, we can re-use them with only minor machine work.
>> 
>>> And that's about the only good news I have......there was evidence of a
>>> 
>> previous valve-job done BADLY, and most all of the valves need replacement,
>> along with the valve guides. I also need one new piston, all new piston
>> rings, and here's the kicker - all new nikasil cylinder liners. Ted Rutlands
>> was called, and he has NO QV engines 'on the shelf', so I'm stuck rebuilding
>> my own engine. The parts bill will be steep....
>> 
>>> M
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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