Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Engine Rebuild III

[LarryT (l02turner]

Mercedes has an excellent (so everyone says) antifreeze suitable for its 
aluminum heads and blocks.
Not bad at around $9/gal.

LarryT

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From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:34 AM
To: "Larry Turner" <l02turner [at] comcast.net>
Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III

> My mechanic swears-by BMW antifreeze (at $60/gallon), being the proper 
> formulation for all-aluminum engines - he hates Prestone or other 
> off-the-shelf products as never having done their homework for 
> all-aluminum blocks, and what they need....not sure his feelings about 
> running pure water/water-wetter in there, but we'll have to discuss that 
> much-later down the road....
>
> M
>
> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] me.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Ken Rentiers <rentiers [at] me.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
> To: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> Cc: "ken rentiers" <rentiers [at] mail.com>, "The FerrariList" 
> <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:23 AM
>
>
> Michael something that helps there is to fill the cooling system with just 
> water  - a much more efficient heat transfer medium than the typical 50-50 
> winter mix. Try it you'll be amazed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 30, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Michael James <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > My Driving was limited to mostly highway miles, no track time, and 
> > very-limited hard driving, certainly nowhere near redline or the limits 
> > of the car.  But I have had several excursions of very HOT driving, where 
> > speeds were low and engine temps were soaring.....
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/26/09, Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
> > To: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 6:11 PM
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >      What kind of oil were you using?  How long between changes?  What 
> > kind
> > of driving did you usually do?  What oil is he recommending for when the 
> > car
> > is back on the road again?
> > Tom
> > Tulsa
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael James" <cavallino_rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> > To: <kjtar [at] cox.net>
> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2009 2:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
> >
> >
> > My mechanic, David Feinberg, believes my choice in oil coupled with the 
> > heat
> > did some serious damage - the piston rings scoured the cylinder liners, 
> > and
> > vice-versa when the oil 'broke-down" from high-heat, and the bearings in 
> > the
> > motor are all SHOT. The Cams and Crankshaft were spared, but the bearing
> > sets have risen in price over the years....and so have cylinder liners. I
> > also burned-through a piston. I also have all of the engine gaskets to
> > replace (a whole-set of engine gaskets are $1,800, which include the head
> > gaskets). All 16 exhaust valves are destroyed, along with 9 intake
> > valves.....the previous valve job managed to 'nick' all of the valves and
> > corrupt their sealing properties, so my compression/leakdown numbers were
> > horrible across the board. I suppose I should be lucky that the Block and
> > Heads were spared, but the internal 'bits' that have been roasted over 
> > the
> > years....crap!
> >
> > Anywho, we'll have to sit-down and review what the way-ahead looks like.
> >
> > M
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 11/25/09, Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Martin Stark <MStark [at] Copper.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Engine Rebuild III
> > To: "Michael" <Cavallino_Rapante [at] yahoo.com>
> > Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:40 PM
> >
> >
> > As Bill famously said, "I feel your pain." In my case a TR first gear
> > repair, a crown gear carrier upgrade, and a ridiculously expensive
> > throwout bearing replacement. Kind of like the restaurant price guide
> > - $$$$$.
> >
> > Michael James wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the good news is that the Block and Heads are NOT warped at all. 
> > > In
> > fact, we can re-use them with only minor machine work.
> > > And that's about the only good news I have......there was evidence of a
> > previous valve-job done BADLY, and most all of the valves need 
> > replacement,
> > along with the valve guides. I also need one new piston, all new piston
> > rings, and here's the kicker - all new nikasil cylinder liners. Ted 
> > Rutlands
> > was called, and he has NO QV engines 'on the shelf', so I'm stuck 
> > rebuilding
> > my own engine. The parts bill will be steep....
> > > M
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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