Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Politics - Not List Material

[clyde romero (clyderomero]

As Ken opens the fresh hamburger meat and offers it to the unsuspecting soul
he takes it!

Ken then opens kennel and unleashes the hungry Doberman ! 

            
  
Clyde
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Rentiers [mailto:rentiers [at] me.com] 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 7:29 AM
To: clyde
Cc: The FerrariList
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Politics - Not List Material

Interesting that, for those of us who remain at liberty, 'freedom'  
does not obligate anyone else. We just want to be left alone to  
quietly pursue our own happy ends.

The officious do-gooders otoh cannot stand independent thought. They  
squirm with anxierty to force feed us their own personal vision of a  
better universe, funded by large involuntary donations to the public  
trough.

We are just cirrhotic geese, fois gras fattened for consumption by the  
Imperial Dependency. In London the cameras watch as the proles queue  
up for their personal carbon credit ration cards.

It's not about health care. It's all about control, power,

K

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On Nov 14, 2009, at 1:16 AM, Todd Walke <racertod [at] racertodd.com> wrote:

> Michael wrote:
>
>> I would agree with this, in-part, if you didn't equate 'being  
>> healthy'
>> with a LUXURY.  So not-dying from Polio or the Swine Flu ranks up  
>> there
>> with buying a Porsche, in your view?  If you can't afford  
>> something, you
>> deserve to DIE?  And you wonder why the NeoCons have an image and  
>> 'values'
>> problem.....
>
>         NeoCon??  Noun: A pejorative used by the ever so "tolerant"  
> Left
> to try to smear anyone to the right of them.  Commonly used in lieu of
> debating the actual facts.
>
>         I'm a small "c" conservative, libertarian-leaning, Founding
> Fathers-loving, traditional AMERICAN values human being imbued by our
> Creator with the right to live my life as I see fit free from (most)
> government interference.
>
>         What right do I have to compel a doctor (or a plumber or a
> mechanic) to provide me a service unless we mutually agree on  
> compensation
> for the service?  Indeed, something can't be a "right" if it places a
> sanction on someone else to provide it.  I cannot compel a farmer to  
> give
> me food, a carpenter to build me a home or a doctor to fix my body  
> unless
> we mutually agree on compensation.
>         I'll guess that even you, Michael, freely trade your skills to
> others in exchange for money with both parties agreeing to the  
> terms.  Why
> can't a doctor do the same?  I'll also guess you'd be mighty ticked  
> off if
> the government came to you and compelled you by force to provide me  
> your
> skills for free or at a lower, government-mandated rate.
>
>         You cannot insure your health.  All health care insurance  
> does is
> insure my bank account against the cost of health care.
>
>         As for being healthy, I'm 46.  Haven't been to a doctor for a
> checkup, injury or disease since I was 18.  Never had a flu shot,  
> including
> for the swine flu.  Don't have insurance because I can't afford it.   
> If I
> get sick, I'll try to purchase what health care I can with the money  
> I have
> or turn to private charity.  Same thing I'd do if I needed big-time  
> legal
> help - try to find attorney I could afford or see if one will take  
> my case
> pro-bono.
>         I choose to rely on myself and the inherent goodness of my  
> fellow
> Americans rather than the faceless, uncaring government bureaucrats,  
> thank
> you very much.
>
>> Next, you're going to tell me Jesus was wrong, too.  We are NOT our
>> Brother's keeper.  Gotcha.  "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of  
>> Happiness -
>> for the Upper-Class and GOP Members Only"  That's catchy - Sarah  
>> Palin
>> should run with that.
>
>         Bwwwaaaa ha ha!  I've never made more 30K a year.  That  
> makes me
> very, very lower class.  Your prejudice is showing - many who espouse
> conservative views are poor and middle-class.
>         Being your brothers keeper means giving voluntarily of your  
> time
> and money.  Christ was about private philanthropy - not compelling  
> others
> to pay my way via the jackbooted thugs of government.
>
>
> Todd
> Seattle,WA
> '86 GTI, Red of course. (exciting racey car) 270,000 miles
> '01 Golf TDI, silver.   (new work car)       223,000 miles
> '87 Golf, Polar Silver. (retired work car)   654,000 miles <- Gone  
> to a new
> home :(
> http://www.pureluckdesign.com <-Ferrari & VW stuff
>
>
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