Ferrari Mailing List: Re: Ferrari

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I must be losing it - I don't get it either.

On May 29, 2009, at 4:21 PM, red5hilser [at] aol.com wrote:

Hey francis: WRONG! Read the question again, and maybe you'll get it.

Sorry, yer pal, Ferrari Bubba

-----Original Message-----
From: francis newman
To: Bubba
Subject: Re: [Ferrari] Ferrari - Where's the Passion?

Unless it's a trick question - Belgian GP June 18 1967 - the one and  

only win.

One of the Eagle Weslake V12s was at GTO Engineering, a ferrari shop  

a couple of miles from where I live, having some work done a couple  

of years ago. Beautiful car.

Do I get to ask the next question.

Best

Francis

On 29 May 2009, at 15:38, Red5hilser [at] aol.com wrote:

> Hey Phil: I think that there's more than a fair share of passion >  

right here in East Jesus, AR.?

>

> Dos Hermanos Rodriquez? I saw Ricardo win the under 2 litre class  

at?> the Times GP at?Riverside in his brand new Porsche RSK in the  

late > '50s, and both GTS Doug and I chatted with his older brother  

in the > pits at Laguna Seca after his Can-Am Ferrari dropped out  

with he > said, "the fuel pump, she chorted!"

> ?

> If you or anyone out ther want to play a little F1 or Ferrari  

racing > trivia, either on or off line, I'm up to the challenge.

>

> Trivia Question?1. When and where was Dan Gurney's F1 Eagle's  

first > win in Europe?

>
> Any takers?? --? Yer pal, Ferrari Bubba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: philville

> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales  

tax

>
>
>
>
> OK, break out the flame throwers, but, I am not quite certain that
> owning a Ferrari today means the same thing to many of the owners as
> it did even 5 to 10 years ago....
> At one time it was a goal, a goal that few ever anticipated

> accomplishing, the enthusiasts were consumed with owning a Ferrari  

> now

> I fear that many are only consumed with consuming and owning....how
> many people (owners / enthusiasts ) know the serial number of their
> car? How many can actually recite much of the history of the car or
> know what the history of the drivers were who was Phil Hill or
> Grahm Hill or the Rodriguez bros.....and don't even think about the

> truly incredible men who raced these cars in the 40's and >  

50's.....or

> about Ferraris efforts at Indy........
>
> Where is the passion?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: rolindsay [at] yahoo.com
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009 9:43 pm

> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National Sales  

> tax

> To: Phil Tegtmeier <philville [at] dejazzd.com>
> Cc: FerrariList <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> I've thought about that too. Ferrari owners are by definition
>> unique. And unique isn't allowed in a socialist system. Hummm...
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 20:54:51
>> To: rolindsay<rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
>> Cc: The FerrariList<ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National
>> Sales tax
>>
>>
>> I used to think that most people here on this NG already owned a
>> Ferrari or
>> were inspired to own one in the future and were likely saving up
>> for the big
>> day when they could take possession of one. I didn't realize
>> that there
>> would be so many who would rather give more of their income to
>> the BO ,so he
>> can redistribute it to whatever group of people that BO
>> desires, instead of
>> them keeping as much of their hard earned money
> as they can. I
>> don't see
>> how BO's confiscation of more of their income would help them
>> get to own a
>> Ferrari any faster. But then maybe it's just me being selfish
>> for not
>> wanting to buy any more illegal aliens their free helath care.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Morris" <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>
>> To: "Rick" <Forza355 [at] verizon.net>
>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 5:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National
>> Sales tax
>>
>>
>>> I hate to say it, but thinking that BO was going to take it I
>> had already
>>> started working out moving our operation off shore. So,
>> his tax increase
>>> will likely see my taxes drop by 10's of K per year. Yeah-
>> that increase
>>> will pan our really well for him.
>>>
>>> And it is not a matter of being selfish, as most of the have-
>> nots seem to
>>> think. Most of them are the will-nots, which is why they
>> are have-nots.
>>> I have no problem helping those that are can-nots- they
>> absolutely need
>>> the help. I also have no problem in helping to supply a
>> safety net for
>>> those that unexpectedly, and through no fault of their own,
>> fall on hard
>>> times. But that latter group will also be in need short-
>> term, and not
>>> decide to live off of the social system. Unfortunately,
>> the Democrats are
>>> generally socialist minded individuals, and our current Pres I
>> would have
>>> to say has at least one foot into communism. Just how
>> much private
>>> business is our government taking over now?
>>>
>>> Incidentally, I too have lived in two systems. Socialism
>> simply does not
>>> work, and for the reasons previously stated. It is great
>> in theory, but
>>> falls apart when you bring the human element into it. I
>> say open the
>>> border to the north, give people the choice of socialism or
>> capitalism
>
>>> (heck, the capitalist side can even pay to move the socialists
>> north), and
>>> then lock the border up tight. Lets see who makes it
>> through the year.
>>>
>>> (getting down off the soap box and waiting to see who is up next)
>>>
>>> Big R
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:43 PM
>>> To: Rick Morris
>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National
>> Sales tax
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No sir. You are the rick with the BIG R!
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Rick Morris <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>
>> wrote:>
>>>> From: Rick Morris <rick.morris [at] brewhaus.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US National
>> Sales tax
>>>> To: "rolindsay" <rolindsay [at] yahoo.com>
>>>> Cc: "The FerrariList" <ferrari [at] ferrarilist.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:37 PM
>>>> Have I been demoted to just 'the
>>>> other Rick' now? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
>>>> From: Rick Lindsay [mailto:rolindsay [at] yahoo.com]
>>>> Sent: Thu 5/28/2009 3:11 PM
>>>> To: Rick Morris
>>>> Cc: The FerrariList
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ferrari] NFC: Here comes BO's 10 % US
>>>> National Sales tax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Friends,
>>>> We are obviously of mixed minds
>>>> here. Discussions like this are often contested
>>>> between the "haves" and the "have-nots". I'm not sure
>>>> that's the case here in FList land. Most of us 'have'
>>>> to some degree. Hummm...
>>>>
>>>> I think it just comes down to the fact
>>>> that those of us who went to school for a zillion years,
>>>> have worked hard all of our lives at good jobs, paid our
>>>> bills, paid our taxes, have a little coin tucked away and
>>>> have no debt - are being told that we don't deserve anything
>>>> that we have and that we need to redistribute it to the
>>>> people who
> did NOT study, work, pay bills, pay taxes and
>>>> save - just so that we can all be equals at some low,
>>>> marginally acceptable level. That just does not work
>>>> for me. One doesn't get from life what one
>>>> deserves. One gets what one works for. (Please
>>>> pardon the preposition at the end of the sentence.)
>>>>
>>>> I know I'm a hard-ass when it comes to
>>>> this but I've seen both sides. I grew up poor,
>>>> descended from an even poorer Scottish family. I have
>>>> relatives who do NOTHING but whine - at least when their
>>>> Oxycontin starts to wear off - and they get more government
>>>> money than any of us - for doing absolutely NOTHING.
>>>> They're ignorant and proud of it, living a lifestyle of "Why
>>>> work if I can get government money for free?" That
>>>> attitude is why communism and socialism does not work.
>>>> I've lived in Russia and have seen it first hand. I
>>>> don't care if Tim Geitner says, "Soon we won't care how much
>>>> money we earn. We'll care about how we live."
>>>> That's just naive (and/or more likely, intended for ears
>>>> other than ours). Hummm...
>>>>
>>>> Socialism feels very "moral high-ground"
>>>> in concept but it fails because it is counter to basic
>>>> evolutionary forces. Life wants to survive and
>>>> replicate, even if at the expense of others. We want
>>>> to win the race/game/contest even though someone else has to
>>>> loose. Its how life works. Just look at what
>>>> people watch on network TV! We have to compete and we
>>>> like to win! Winning upsets the balance that socialism
>>>> tries to establish.
>>>>
>>>> The system being forced upon us now is
>>>> counter to all of that. Its like saying that all the
>>>> F1 teams can compete but no one is allowed to win.
>>>> They must all be equals. Someone should take all of
>>>> Toyota, Ferrari and McLaren's money and give it to Force
>>>> India so that all of the
> teams will be equals. This
>>>> concept violates the Great Truth of the Universe Rule #14:
>>>> "No two anythings were ever created equal." That
>>>> includes us, brothers.
>>>>
>>>> rick (That's rick with a small "r", not the other Rick with
>>>> the big "R")
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Re: Ferrari - Where's the Passion?	<– Date –> <– Thread –>
From: Ken Rentiers (rentiersmac.com)
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:16:50 -0700 (PDT)