Ferrari Mailing List: Re: A reason for a 328

[E M (pokiebaron]

Back in the 80s, one of the cars parked in our driveway, was a Chevette.  Not a Corvette, a Chevette. hee hee.  When trying to explain to other, just how good the engineers in F1 were, I used to point to that little 4 banger in the Chevette and say, "imagine trying to squeeze1100 or more HP from something that size.  That's what they do in F1! ;-)  Even today, where 500HP road cars are common, 1100HP from 1.5 litres still blows my mind!

Ed
911SC

On 4 June 2010 22:11, LarryT <l02turner [at] comcast.net> wrote:

BMW F-1 had the famous "Grenade" qualifying engines back in the 80's - good for 3-5 laps then Kaboom!

 

Its still hard for me to comprehend so much power from something with the volume of a 2L Coke bottle! 

 

LarryT

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From: Doug and Terri Anderson

Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 2:06 PM

To: Larry Turner

Cc: The FerrariList

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A reason for a 328

Ah hah - right on Ed.  Ergo supercharging.  Our little twin turbocharged V-6 TAG Turbo F1 engine - all 1500 cc's of it, allegedly put out 1100 hp at about 12,000 rpm.  To hold this bomb together the engine block has the standard 8 long studs that go through the head BUT the heads ALSO have 6 studs each that go though the block!  Also, each intake and exhaust port has 4 studs each to hold the each intake and exhaust manifolds to the head.  THen the bottom end is held together with a separate casting which looks like a sump - but its the girdle for the mains and there are about 18 - 8 mm studs for that.  Ayep - tight tight tight.

DOUG

----- Original Message -----

From: E M

To: Doug and Terri Anderson

Cc: The FerrariList

Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:55 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A reason for a 328

More air really is the tricky bit with motors, isn't it.  The other bits, more fuel, better spark, etc are easy peasy by comparison.  Mind you, once you get enough air into the motor, keeping the heads on, and not blowing the bottom out of the case provide their own challenges too. hee hee

Ed
911SC

On 4 June 2010 13:35, Doug and Terri Anderson <dnt [at] dock.net> wrote:

Hmmmm - HP is equal to Torque x RPM divided by 5252.  So either the breathing efficiency is improved to improve torque or the RPM was increased.  If the motor becomes a better air pump - RPM may not need to increase - tho it could - that much to get more HP. 

I dunno, I could be wrong.

DOUG

----- Original Message -----

From: Fortune Motors

To: DOUG

Cc: The FerrariList

Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 10:19 AM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A reason for a 328

here are the before dyno results

 

100% stock

 

211.0 RWHP, 185.8 ft/lbs peak with STOCK EXHAUST AND CATS

 

 

so a 25%  increase should yield   263.7 RWHP 232.2 ft/lbs peak

 

I would be very happy with this. 

 

 

 

Wade

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From: Rui Gigante

To: Wade

Cc: The FerrariList

Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [Ferrari] A reason for a 328

Yes, I'd love to see that, too.

But having said that, 270HP * 1,25 = 337,5HP
That's about the power of a 348 GTB (320HP) , and that car costs about the same as a 328 ...

Rui

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM, LS <lashdeep [at] yahoo.com> wrote:

25% peak?

That would be amazing...please keep us updated on this project. I'd love to see before and after dyno numbers.

Thanks,
LS

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